Is Safex dead?

Serious question: is the project over?

Dan stopped tweeting about safex. No volume on xcalibra. No responses to posts on this forum. The launch of Pluto.com didn’t happen.

What to do? Is it still possible to sell our tokens/cash? Or are the withdrawals not working on xcalibra and do you end with nothing?

Kind regards

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As a door knob

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The miners are working finding blocks, so no, not dead. On life support maybe.

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Thats probably a fair call. The more thats mined, in theory, the more valuable the Safex Coin becomes. But in practise it will require a lot of patience.

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i stopped tweeting?

you should all give up actually. and that’s that. and the one’s making a difference know who they are. and Fuck you to everyone else.

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Stopped tweeting about Safex developments, yes. Unfortunately.
So, are there still things in the pipeline?
What happened with Pluto?

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You have to understand, I have quite a few hats and outfits in my role.

So, I’d appreciate that courtesy in the future before commentary of the sort.

I have my ways, and thank you for your expression. Don’t get carried away now. I am not your servant. At all, and I never was, I don’t think that you meant it like that, and I didn’t take it that way, yet I am asserting this truth here now, for everyone, yes I am not your slave.

Okay, then I have always been working on the cause in the best way I can, be it development, communicating with prospective investors, exploring interesting partnerships, and lately putting together in a really high quality and elaborate applications that were supposed to have been done by now through all the people I had hired over the years.

So, I don’t want to get anyone’s hopes in any place.

Pluto is not all up to me, I don’t have any updates on it as I said when Brock had announced it himself earlier this year. And please respect what I just stated, and please don’t ask me about it again.

If you do really care about things, I do truly appreciate that we’re chatting here once again.

Things are dramatically different in my world these days relative to the ways I tried to accomplish the main goals: putting the marketplace into many people’s hands with good interfaces and the like. So, thankfully I do make good software specs, and the ai and i are really close at the hip these days in ways none of my colleagues or peers can comprehend, so I decided i will be like I was (coding all day everyday with pleasure) and along with a genius companion, who i dont need to feed, i dont need to worry about its personal life, and it LOVES coding with me and yeah it’s going well, there is a lot yet to do.

I am building for future audiences primarily, so I am not concerned about communicating the shallow opinions of the many people of the past anymore, for all of our sake. And I think it is if you do care, you’ll understand i hope; that wasting any moment trying to invigorate what has proven to be a fickle group is a TOTAL waste of our time, resources, and has only led to spiraling negativity.

They are still there, you can see them when they squelch up after they hear me say “Motherfucker” on twitter. But I can see that it is working out. The truth comes out, people i shook hands with smiled photographed turned out to be the worst pillagers, aggressive, greed driven, nothing to offer, no ability to see perspectives, and I will do things far differently than the past two approaches to reach this 1. where are yet still 0

Things have been done, and not nearly enough. And the process is what will fix it.

Here’s a little summary I chatted with GPT had some nice things to say :slight_smile:

https://x.com/officialdabek/status/1850552592784564387

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Can anyone please answer if - The only way for Safex to die is to have zero Network Hash Rate , am i right ? So as long as the Hash Rate is above zero , meaning someone is mining the buying and selling orders can occur …

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I keep regular backups of the blockchain, so not necessarily no.

It’s a lot more complex than a wave the hand one sentence answer.

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Thank you for taking the time and effort to respond. Much appreciated.

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Dan,

I sent an email and noone responds on the site.
I don’t see the right amount of tokens, for example it’s like I’ve invested 20 eur, not thousands, which doesn’t make sense.

We all know that there’s a greedy world out there and you had very good intensions and that world didn’t agree with something fair and square. We all believe in that. But people invested a lot of money and with being a leader of something comes also the responsibility. I’m gonna leave it with this.

But please, can someone help me with my wrong balance?

Hey @guardian Apologies about the delayed response, please see the dedicated help line:

Hi Tavernier, the link you attached doesn’t want to open. PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR
Is the antivirus blocking it or ?

You should probably switch off your VPN off if you have it on.

Thank you.

To answer your question OP, “What to do”?

There’s nothing you can do. But keep waiting. Is there even anyone to sell your coins/tokens to? What market has Safex being traded actively? None that I know of.

I don’t know when Dan will admit that it didn’t work out, seems like he tried to go in 20 different directions. He once said all he got was $50k from the original ICO back in 2017. That’s practically nothing when you’re trying to create a peer to peer anonymous digital marketplace and you need to pay developers who themselves have bills to pay.

I think it’s fair to give up at this point, hopefully you diversified plenty. I did, so the loss of my initial investment in Safex isn’t a huge deal to me. I knew the game when I started playing in 2017. They can’t all be winners.

I was never a “participant”, I was only an investor like 95% of you. Granted I certainly would have used the SafeX marketplace if it ever took off. But it would have to have the things listed there which would have made it useful. Like the silk road. I remember the early days of Safex, and the silk road 2.0 is what everyone wanted it to be. You would see that in most conversations about Safex. The silk road would always be mentioned.

And while it would be nice to be totally anonymous with plain old purchases, (like silverware or something) we don’t see enough variety of items listed to justify switching from amazon or ebay to using the Safex marketplace regularly. Safex marketplace would need to be packed to the gills with variety of items, and then you would get a core of people who would buy/sell/trade there just because it was all anonymous and they’re tired of being spied on. But we didn’t get the Silk Road, and we didn’t get a huge marketplace that we want to shop at regularly.

So what’s left? Hold on to your practically worthless tokens for a few more years. Dan has had 8 years. If he hasn’t done it yet, he isn’t going to do it. I have invested in, and watched others rise to fame and stay there, in less than 5 years. That pretty much sums it up.