No updates? Is Safex dead?

Sure seems like it. Here we are…almost May 2021 and only one seller can sell stuff on TWM. This is not what all the long term holders hoped for or believed in. What a crazy trail of continuous waiting, letdown and disappointment. Prove me wrong Dan. I believed in you for so long but I don’t any more.

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Anyone paying attention over the last few years would know that, historically, Dan does most of his coding locally, and rarely pushes it to GitHub until he’s finished working on whatever repo he’s been focussed on.

Not seeing GitHub updates is not an indication of no coding being done; rather, no code being pushed, is all.

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Hey @aussiesloth, how come the new Co-Founder CPO of Safex Marketplace/Safex foundation wasn’t announced to the forum? Or anywhere else?

I think, perhaps, that you may be misunderstanding the situation. Why would such an announcement need to be made?

Safex project is the core project - open source. This is the part in which we own SFT and SFX.

Safex Foundation was created by Dan as a NFP entity to further blockchain development and education. It doesn’t answer to the Safex project.

TWM Inc was also created by Dan, as a private entity. It doesn’t answer to the Safex project, but uses it, just like any other private entity could be created by anyone else and use the open source software of the Safex project.

Why would either of those entities need to necessarily report anything as part of the core project update.

Be thankful we’re getting some info as to the development of the TWM wallet by TWM Inc - there’s certainly no requirement to do so.

What Dan chooses to share outside of the core Safex development should be considered a bonus, not an expectation, imo.

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Hey @aussiesloth, take a step back here.

There is no distinction between TWM and Safex made by Dan:

  1. the Safex.org website states that it is “Awaiting TWM Wallet v1” on the download section, so the Safex project according to its own website is now the TWM wallet. The other wallets have been removed.
  2. all the safex branding on twitter mentions TWM: safeXᵀᵂᴹ, Safex: The World Marketplace.
  3. The website https://safex.market/ says ‘Enter The Safex Market’ is just the TWM wallet.
  4. Aharon Bernal’s own Twitter says he is Co-Founder CPO of the Safex Market rather than TWM or the Safex foundation.

“Be thankful we’re getting some info as to the development of the TWM wallet” - it’s the only wallet that now works with Safex other than the CLI wallet at the moment? Meanwhile, all development on Safex core has stopped, but I should be grateful? :rofl:

Guessing you didn’t read this update- Safex Dev Update: March 15, 2021

Also…

What about it? I take it you’re referring to the section that states: “After the initial TWM Wallet release, we will be able to add others to the platform in a methodical way to encourage quality listings, and quality service from the vendors using the platform” , but the website has since then also removed the orbiter wallets, for what reason? How come everyone is being forced to use TWM?

Also, lol at that screenshot. Are you showing me that the safex market and safex is a copyright of TWM after telling me I was confused? I think you’ve just proved my point for me. :joy: :joy:

Just like Satoshi Nakamoto created BTC, then multitudes of companies rose up to use the blockchain and create wallets etc…

TWM Inc is a corporate entity created to make use of the Safex blockchain. Just because it was also created by Dan doesn’t mean it is part of the core Safex project.

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Satoshi didn’t copyright elements of BTC and mix it up with a private company either, but OK…

How many wallets are coming Aussie? Where has the Obiter wallet gone?

You’re showing me a post that’s 3 months old where there has been no core development done within this time, no wrapped SFX, no new wallets, instead there is a new Co-Founder CPO of the Safex Market which has nothing to do with Safex.

Just what core development do you now expect?

I was pointing out the company name, not the copyright, which is for the website, not the name. Stop being so obtuse.

Your sense of entitlement is unbelievable.

Do you go looking for the GUI wallet put out by the BTC devs when you want to use BTC? No… you simply use a wallet put out out by one of the other entities.

Use the TWM wallet - it works.

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“Just what core development do you now expect?”

Erm, the development Dan said was coming? i.e. wrapped SFX to join the rest of the crypto ecosystem, finished documentation, this aside, proof that the feedback mechanism works in a GUI (yet to be seen) would also be nice.

“Your sense of entitlement is unbelievable”, "Be thankful we’re getting some info as to the development of the TWM wallet”, stop being so obsequies will you, it’s painful to read.

“Use the TWM wallet - it works” - the TWM wallet is a piece of buggy trash. What happened to the Orbiter wallet?

It became obsolete with the December hardfork.

What update was that in?

Common sense - it can’t update past the hardfork, ergo… It is obsolete.

:joy: :joy: :joy:, what? I’ve had wallets update along with a hardfork… This was a choice. This is why there wasn’t an update about it. Dan posted on the forum:

“Hey, with the hardfork the orbiter wallet stopped being compatible. Sincerely it was an oversight on my part not to remember that this would happen. Yet it doesn’t matter, we don’t have time to do both the orbiter and twm wallet.

So the only GUI wallet to access Safex is now the buggy one that is part of Dan’s company because Dan hard forked the blockchain and made the only wallet not part of his company obsolete… :thinking:

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I’ll be ignoring you from this point forward. You’re obviously eager to be antagonistic, and I see no point wasting my breath further.

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Well, you finally went too far there. Action being taken…

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Someone is scared, buying more.

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I think @Staking made some really good points/questions, but maybe not so clearly or nicely said. I don’t know what he wrote that made You @aussiesloth ban him, but I suppose it was something “major”.

Anyways, I think the “mood” of safex community could benefit from any kind of official update these days. I suppose there are many inexperienced Safex holders here, who are scared of the “global dip” on the crypto market.
I agree that nobody has to write anything here, but caring for the community in these “dark times” might be a good thing for the project.

Good luck with further work!

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don’t let fear send you manic.

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